CENTER LANE INTERVIEW SUMMARY CL-986/8211/07

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In this document from the CIA's Stargate program, Source CL-07 is interviewed about a section of a building. The source describes an entry area with a table and wide arching stairways leading to a courtyard. The area is described as open with a large chandelier. To the right of the entry on the second or third floor, there is a room where a meeting took place with 15-20 people. Some were wearing dark suits and others were in green uniforms. The meeting seemed boring and related to a belt-tightening matter. Another room in the section was described as cluttered with metal shelves and maps or charts. There was a machine with pins drawing lines on paper. Source believes the building is related to research and expanding knowledge. No further information was obtained from the source during the interview.

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 66:       This will be a CENTER LANE interview with source number 07, the
 date is 11 January 1983, time is 1300 hours.
 The interior of the building in the photograph I've shown you is
 perceptible now, 11 January 1983.
 07:       I thought it was some kind of apartment building but-things I see
 are different.  It's a,,a, big a, white, metal sphere, hexegonal
 shaped, long shaft of some kind.  Also suddenly flashed to a large...
 dish somewhere else, Parabolic like a, an antenna-and the feeling
 of the building is a..research, expanding knowledge..
 66:       What impressions do you have that makes you draw this conclusion?
 07:       The things I saw that sphere and a big a..a.big reflector..parabolic
 shape.  I saw in one room a cables, and unusual boxes and things...
 Just feels like, feels like research...... feels ah...excitement of a
 new information.
 66:       Describe the present activity in the building.
 07:       Just a minute.
 66:       I will wait.
 07:       ......Less important  things is..seems to be a meeting..in the a..
 to the right of the entrance on the...second or third floor. Just before
 that I..saw some kind of machine with a.. lots of pins a drawings,
 squiggly lines on paper as it moves by.  I couldn't attach any great
 importance to that.  Excitment in the meeting.
 66:       Describe the meeting to me.
 07:       Ah..A big table, slightly oval, close to the wall...15 or 20 people are
 close to the table,a lot of strap hangers.... other chairs towards
 the entrance.
 66:       Describe these people to me.
 07:       Dark suits and...some of them appear to have a...there's some green
 uniforms over to the left over there. but..dull, grayish colored
 sweaters under some suits..Most people a,appear to be ah.. late
 thirties, forties, early forties...... keep seeing this damn drum ah,
 drum with a...pins..drawing lines. ah, I don't know what it means.
 66:       Describe the area surrounding this.
 07:       It's a little ah long, narrow room with ah, ah end opens on a window
 on the courtyard...very cluttered... lots of metal shelves with a lot
 of paper on it...Long table or a long ah..work bench on the other
 wall....maps or charts of some kind ... This machine-hooked to an
 adjacent room ah..the lines go at least that far and then ah......... ,-
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 07:      ..Near.an entry, ah, ah after you go in, appears to be a table, very
 wide, arching stairways that goes upwards ah, ah in the direction of the
 courtyard,.space seems to be opened..with a big chandelier or something
 hanging in ah the center, very big open space, echoey..
 66:      Move back to the place of the meeting.  Describe the meeting to me.
 07:      ....Ah..it seemed to be three in the position of ah, ah, addressing
 this group at the moment ah, two supporting and one talking and
 demonstrating...I can't seem to get turned around right yet.... Entrance
 doesn't seem to be in the direction its supposed to be.
 66:      Describe your perspective to me.
 07:      It seems to be to the right of the entry..maybe..50 or 100 feet from the
 entry to the right coming ah, in the entry.  But ah, the room seemed to be
 oriented so that the door is the opposite side of the room from the
 entryw.ay...I just thought it would be..the door would be nearest the
 entry.
 66:      Tell me about the meeting.
 07:      Let's see.......... (mumble)  Can't seem to get through to it, it's very
 boring and. ...Someone outside is, the building is there but..I don't
 know, I just feel like a belt t~ghtening of some kind-doesn't seem
 exciting it-doesn't excite the imagine, it's more of a..a boring putdown,
 belt tight6hing sort of thing.
 66:      Okay.  I have no further questions for you concerning the building,
 but I would like to allow you a few moments now to explore on your
 own and comment as you see fit.  Do this now.
 07:      I tried very hard to-explore that whole section.  I couldn't seem to..
 break through to the section on the left,..section on the right to
 the adjacent wing that goes into, seeoiaalto be most important to me.
 That's about it.
 66:      Okay, fine.
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 On 11 January 1983, Source CL-07 was interviewed concerning a section
 of a building in
 Source described an entry area in this ecct.ion of building.  There
 was a table near the entry.  Beyond the table were very wide arching stairways
 thatt, went: upward in the direction of the courtyard (away from the main street).
 The entry area seemed to be open with a big chandelier or something
 hanging in the center.  It was all a very big open space, echoey.  Source
 described areas other than the entry which were located to the right
 (facing the building from the main street).
 Source described a room to the right of the entry on the second
 or third floor.  In this room containing a big, slighlty oval table
 and chairs, a meeting had taken place attended by 15-20 people.  Some
 of these people were dressed in dark suits worn over dull, grayish colored
 sweaters.  Others were wearing green uniforms.  Most of the people
 appeared to be 30 or 40 years old.  Three people appeared to be
 addressing this group.   This meeting seemed to be very boring, having
 .o do with a belt..-tightening sort of thing.
 Source also described another room in this section of the building
 which was long and narrow.  it had a window which opened on the court-
 yard.               This room appeared very cluttered and had lots of metal shelves
 with a lot of paper.  There was a long table or workbench on a wall and
 there were maps or charts of some kind.  In this room there was a machine
 with lots of pins which drew squiggly lines on paper on a drum.   This
 machine was hooked to someplace else, possibly an adjacent room.
 Source reported that because of the things he saw in the building (a big
 white metal sphere, a hexegonal shaped long shaft, a parabolic antenna or
 reflector, cables and unusual boxes), all in unspecified locations, that the
 building had to do with research or expanding knowledge for new information.
 No further amplifying information was obtained from Source during this Interview.
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