SRI TRIP REPORT

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 DEPARTMENT OF THE ARMY
 US ARMY INTELLIGENCE AND SECURITY COMMAND
 FORT GEORGE G. MEADE, MARYLAND 20755
 6 September 1979
 MEMORANDUM FOR THE RECORD
 SUBJECT:   SRI Trip Report (U)
 1.   (S)   From 20-25 Aug 79, the undersigned visited SRI
 International, Menlo Park CA,  to monitor contract action
 on the Grill Flame program and to exchange technical informa-
 tion of interest.
 a.    On 20 Aug 79,  the morning consisted of general
 discussions of the training sessions to be conducted during
 the two-week training cycle.   The sessions will include, but
 not be limited to,  the following areas:   Remote Viewing  (RV)
 of photographs (projected 35mm slides), RV of areas designated
 by map coordinates,  RV of random noise electronic devices to
 provide the viewer with real time feedback of his RV ability,
 and appropriate RV exercises to enhance a viewer's particular
 area of demonstrated ability.  During the afternoon, the
 SG1I       undersigned provided SRI personnel with a briefing on the
 progress of the INSCOM Grill Flame program.   Also in attendance SG1I
 at this briefing was               of the CIA.               was
 the interviewer for Mr. Pat Price when Mr. Price was doing RV
 work for the CIA in 1975.   That evening the undersigned had
 SGlldinner with                 During dinner he related many of his
 personal experiences with Mr. Price.   At the present time Mr.
 SG11      is working on the                          within the CIA.
 SG1A           b. On 21 Aug 79, a RV session was conducted in support
 of a "real world" problem.   The RVer was provided appropriate
 target data (Geographic Coordinates and description of type
 of information required) which was supplied by Air Force
 Tactical Air Command Intelligence personnel.   The RVer was
 able to provide meaningful data concerning the target. Results
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 SUBJECT:   SRI Trip Report  (U)
 roblem mentioned in subparagraph b above at the request of
 of this RV session are available through Air Force Grill
 Flame channels and can be requested by INSCOM Grill Flame
 personnel if necessary.
 The afternoon consisted of RV work with random noise
 electronic devices (successful in that the device was perturbed
 during the RV)  and a two-hour discussion of RV practices with
 Hella Hammid, a well known RVer who works with the SRI personnel.
 c.   On 22 Aug 79, SRI personnel conducted a discussion
 of the judging of previous "beacon" type RV sessions.   After
 this discussion, the rest of the day was used to do RV of random
 noise electronic devices  (successful) and photographs.  For the
 first RV session of photographs,  the RVer was asked to pick out
 the photograph he perceived from a "pool" of four photographs.
 The RVer was able to do this.   This procedure was not continued
 because it was not considered beneficial to have the RVer
 anticipating left hemispheric analysis of his own RV images.
 d.   On 23 Aug 79,  INSCOM personnel were asked to not
 come to SRI in the morning because Mr. Gale of the DOD Grill
 Flame "Gale Committee" was to be there and SRI personnel would
 be occupied with him.   SRI personnel reported later that their
 meeting with Mr. Gale went well.   Apparently they discussed
 statistical judging of RV sessions.   During the afternoon hours
 another RV session was conducted against the "real world"
 of this RV session were significan
 personnel.   Results
 Another RV session of a photograph was conducted
 later in the afternoon (successful).
 e.            On 24 Aug 79,  the morning consisted of RV work with
 random noise electronic devices  (unsuccessful)  and in the
 afternoon another RV session of a photograph was conducted  (very
 scucessful).
 2.   (S)      The initial report on Phase One of the training at
 SRI is due to be published by the middle of September 1979.
 At the request of the undersigned, SRI personnel provided the
 following POCs:
 Hella Hammid
 SGFOIA3^
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 Ingo Swann
 SGFOIA3
 3.   (S)   The time spent at SRI was very beneficial to the
 undersigned.   The face-to-face exchange of information in
 this highly technical field cannot be replaced.   I strongly
 recommend continued trips to SRI by INSCOM Grill Flame
 personnel. The two-week training program organized by the
 SRI personnel meets the terms of the contract.
 4e, XF-Z:-
 FREDERICK H. ATWATER
 1LT, MI
 Operations Officer
 INSCOM Grill Flame Project
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