DISCUSSION WITH ARMY MATERIAL COMMAND PERSONNAL ABOUT STANFORD RESEARCH INSTITUTE PARANORMAL PERCEPTION TECHNIQUES

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This document is a memorandum from November 28, 1973, discussing a meeting between Army Material Command personnel and the Scientific Advisor of the Army Material Command, Dr. Richard Kaufman. The meeting was arranged to discuss the parapsychology investigation completed at Stanford Research Institute (SRI). The Army is interested in understanding the abilities of certain soldiers who claim to be able to sense danger and avoid traps in combat situations. Dr. Kaufman believes that the answer to this ability may lie in the realm of parapsychology. The document mentions past experiences with SRI's parapsychology investigations and the proposal of SRI's results. It is agreed that although formal coordination between the Army and the CIA is unlikely, it would be useful to maintain informal communication. The Army plans to evaluate the SRI group and investigate the teachability and learnability of paranormal perception techniques. A meeting is arranged with a theoretical physicist, Dr. Walker, to further explore these abilities.

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MEMORANDUM FOR THE RECORD 
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OTS/CB Memo #73-110 
28 November 1973 
SUBJECT: Discussion with Army Material Command Personnel 
about Stanford Research Institute Paranormal 
Perception Techniques 
1. On the afternoon of 19 November,  25X1 
LSD/OSI informed me of a meeting that afternoon with the 
Scientific Advisor of the Army Material Command Dr. Richard 
Kaufman. The meeting was arranged after  Dr. Steininger 
ADDS&T suggested Dr. Kaufman confer with and my- 25X1 
self about the parapsychology investigation completed at 
Stanford Research Institute (SRI). Other Army personnel 
included, Cols. William Fox, Nickel and Dupont Copp and 
Mr. George T. Myers. All present had verified SI and TK 
clearances. 
2. Dr. Kaufman explained Army interest. In a combat 
situation it was determine that a certain group of men 
were good point men, i.e. good men to lead a patrol. Good 
was self defined in that a good man was one that the troops 
would recognized and gladly follow. When these good point 
men lead troops into boobytrapped and mined areas, they 
claimed to be able to "sensed" a presence of danger and 
hence were able to avoid the traps. Debriefing and training 
has continued but no explanation of what abilities these men 
have has appeared. After doing some reading and following 
the claims of Geller, Dr. Kaufman has concluded that perhaps 
an answer to this unexplained ability lies in the para-
psychology realm. 
3. find myself described some of our past 
experiences with SRI  parapsychology investigations. The 
discussions were limited to high-lighting a few investigation 
and responding to specific questions. A copy of the SRI 
proposal was used to illustrated some of the past results. 
(Copies of the SRI proposal are available to the Army since 
DIA and NSA have received copies from SRI.) 
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4. It was agreed during the meeting that although 
formal coordination and liaison between them and us was 
unlikely to develop, it would be useful to maintain in-
formal communication. Since CIA have not yet funded the 
SRI group, the Army personnel would be free to solicit 
proposals of interest to them. ?Since the Army's main 
emphasis would be on the teachability aspect Of these 
paranormal abilities, their efforts would likely complt!. 
ment our investigations, 
5. I gave.Dr, Kaufman the flame of theoretical 
physcist? Dr. Walker, working at the. Jul isti0 Laboratory 
in Aberdeen, Md. who has published theoretical models for 
Paranormal abilities and expressed my interest in meeting 
Dr. Walker. Dr,- Kaufman will arrange such A meeting with 
his representative.a Dr. Suskee in the near future. 
6, It appearS likely the Army will quickly evaluate 
the SRI group, and begin an effort to investigate the teach-
ability-and,learnability of paranormal perception techniques. 
Kenneth A. Kress 
OPS/CB 
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