STARGATE OPERATIONAL USER INTERVIEW 'ORG. E'

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This document is a draft of an interview conducted with a user of the CIA's Stargate program, referred to as "Org. E." The user's motivation for using the program was to obtain information about future events, such as the time and place of a meeting, or additional information about a person or thing. The user was willing to try the program as there was no cost involved and they were hoping to receive some help. The attitude of the user's DIA POC (Point of Contact) was skeptical, but they were willing to try objectively. The user's organization had previously tasked the program but had not continued until briefed by the new Star Gate PM.

The results of the tasks given to the Stargate program were not specific enough to be of value or warrant the use of other assets. The information provided by the remote viewers (RVs) was vague, conflicting, and contained inaccuracies, requiring too much personal interpretation. No action was taken as a result of the Stargate information.

Although the user would be willing to use Stargate-type services in the future, the current budget environment and the lack of demonstrated value and utility make it difficult to justify funding from the user's resources. The user believes that having RVs work directly

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 STAR GATE OPERATIONAL USER INTERVIEW
 "ORG. E"
 USER POC: Ca, et al
 DATE: 14 July 1995
 Operational Task: Most tasking requested Information about future events, usually the
 time and/or place (or location) of a meeting. Some tasking requested additional
 information describing a person or a thing, e.g., a vessel. In one instance, after
 previous "blind" requests had yielded no useful information, the user met with the RV's
 and provided a picture and other relevant information about an individual in hope of
 obtaining useful information about his activities.
 Motivation   Em     Ji Star Gate: SG PM briefed RV activities and his desire to
 expand customer base. User was willing to "try" using SG capabilities since there was
 no cost to the user and, given the very difficult nature of user business, "grasping at
 straws" In the hope of receiving some help Is not unreasonable. Note that this
 organization had tasked the program In the '91 time frame but had not continued tasking
 In '92-'93 until briefed by the new Star Gate PM.
 User Attitude: DIA POC was openly skeptical, but was willing to try objectively.
 Members of the organization he supports (Org. E) had varied levels of belief, one
 individual appear very supportive noting the successful use of psychics by law
 enforcement groups (based upon media reporting). Evaluation of the tasking was
 accomplished collectively by the DIA POC and three other Org. E members.
 Results - Value/Utility:  None of the information provided In response to any of the
 tasks was specific enough to be of value or to warrant tasking other assets. SG data
 was too vague and generic, information from Individual RV's regarding the same task
 were conflicting, contained many known inaccuracies and required too much personal
 interpretation to warrant subsequent action. User would be more supportive of process
 if data provided was more specific and/or closely Identified with known information. In
 one instance, a drawing was provided which appeared to have similarity with a known
 vessel, but information was not adequate to act on. Bottom line: no action ever taken
 as a result of Star Gate Information.
 Future Use of SG Services: User would be willing to use SG-type services In future.
 However, in current budget environment, demonstrated value and utility are not
 adequate to justify funding from user resources. Would not fund in any case unless
 program could demonstrate a history of successful and useful product. User believes
 that RV's working directly with his analysts on specific problems would be beneficial In
 spite of the obvious drawbacks. Individual quoted above suggested recruiting RV's
 from other sources, noting his belief that the government RV's may not be best
 qualified, i.e., have best psychic capabilities.
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